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Test and measurement: USB noise measurements

I recently performed some noise tests on a USB DAC driven from various USB devices.
The Raspberry Pi was the quietest when running on mains power, but even quieter when powered from a linear PSU and quieter still on battery.
It should be noted that the noisiest scenario was from a mains powered PC into another PC (via the sound card) which is to be expected as a ground loop is formed (the Pi has no ground reference).
Given that most HiFi equipment is isolated from ground, this is unlikely to be an issue - however I plan to measure using the DAC from PC USB into a (grounded) HiFi preamp to see if the problem still exists.
11/02/21 Update: I attached the D10 to a PC and connected it to my HiFi system (the preamp has a ground connection). There was a slight increase in noise. I then connected the PC to my home build DAC (PCM1794 with Amanero USB->i2s interface) and the noise was reduced a lot, but still not as quiet as going directly from the DAC. So as expected, ground loops do raise the noise floor.
I also tried an older Intel NUC (Celeron CPU) and that too was noisier than the Pi.
UPDATE I tested the NUC using a linear bench PSU and it was as quiet as the Pi.
The best scenario would be to use a Raspberry Pi or NUC with a linear PSU. A laptop running on battery would also be a good option but not very practical. When using a Pi - *beware of ground noise* when using the official (or any mains -> USB type) PSU, as clearly some noise was injected, but this will vary according to your individual ground arrangements in your HiFi.
The other alternative would be to use a USB isolator, however if your DAC requires USB3 an isolator won't be cheap.
Unless your music player uses a lot of CPU, the Pi (or the NUC on a linear PSU) is the ultimate player here.
Hardware used for tests:

Raspberry Pi4 Model B 2gb RAM / Intel NUC Celeron CPU (DN2820FYK) / PC: Amd FX6100 / 16GB / Nvidia GFX / Asus Xonar Essence STX sound card / Altor Audio Olivine 2 isolated USB ADC
The linear PSU used to power the Pi is custom built using a toroidal transformer and LM350 3A regulator.
Software used:

WaveSpectra, Sox (for generating tones on Linux), Virtins Multi Instrument (SNR/SINAD measurements)
Conclusion: The USB bus (and its power supply) is not typically noisy - any noise is created by earth / ground loops between the connected equipment and the DAC caused by unequal ground potentials. In some cases it also appears that the ground of a sound card in a typical PC is at a slightly different potential to the USB ground, which then results in PSU / motherboard noise being injected into the resulting analogue signal - this caused a great deal of noise in the loopback test as shown in the images below. However this is probably a rare scenario in a typical computer playback / streamer setup.
*NOTE the isolated USB ADC I'm using has slightly inferior noise figures to my internal sound card - hence the disparity in noise measurements.
Each of the graphs below is annotated with the specific scenario.
Computer Power source THD+N SINAD SNR Noise
Raspberry Pi 4B Official PSU -102.75dB 102.75dB 103.86dB -106.85dBFS
Raspberry Pi 4B Linear PSU -104.23dB 104.23dB 105.71dB -108.69dBFS
Raspberry Pi 4B Battery -104.52dB 104.52dB 106.19dB -109.17dBFS
Laptop Battery -104.63dB 104.63dB 106.32dB -109.30dBFS
PC (isolated ADC*) Mains -98.49dB 98.49dB 98.97dB -101.97dBFS
PC (ground loop) Mains -70.32dB 70.32dB 70.41dB -73.39dBFS

USB noise measurements - MEASUREMENTS
USB noise measurements - LAPTOP-BATTERY-POWER
USB noise measurements - NOISE-FLOOR
USB noise measurements - RASPBERRY-PI-BATTERY
USB noise measurements - RASPBERRY-PI-LINEAR-PSU
USB noise measurements - RASPBERRY-PI-OFFICIAL-PSU
USB noise measurements - TOPOLOGY
USB noise measurements - USB-DAC-GROUND-LOOP-SPECTRA

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